Forgive me for the bible reference, but I think it's time to kick the dust
from my sandals and move on. My life became more fulfilling when I learned
to act by my beliefs rather that my feelings. That often means speaking up
when it would be easier to be quiet.
I recently learned that the best way to lead a rewarding life is to use
things and care for people. Letterboxing is a "thing!" If you use it as a
mode of recreation and refreshment, that's alright. However, if it comes
before the welfare of others, I can't justify it. My suggestions and
warnings were made with the hope that people would see a potential problem
and put their heads together to seek a reasonable solution. Instead they
acted as if I were attacking a loved one. Quite frankly, that turns my
stomach.
I had a life before letterboxing and I'll have one after. It's a sad
statement that is made about our American culture when people fight so
tenacously for a "thing." However, I've said my piece and know when I'm up
against a brick wall.
May your paths be smooth and I sincerely hope that none of my predictions
come true. However, for the time-being Stone Needle in NJ will be off the
list and I'll just have to go back to enjoying the outdoors without a stamp
pad.
Forester
Fare thee well
4 messages in this thread |
Started on 2001-05-31
Fare thee well
From: Forester (jrov@nji.com) |
Date: 2001-05-31 21:49:08 UTC-04:00
Re: [LbNA] Fare thee well
From: Thom Cheney (tcgrafx@imagina.com) |
Date: 2001-06-01 08:57:11 UTC-07:00
on 5/31/01 6:49 PM, Forester at jrov@nji.com wrote:
>
> I had a life before letterboxing and I'll have one after. It's a sad
> statement that is made about our American culture when people fight so
> tenacously for a "thing." However, I've said my piece and know when I'm up
> against a brick wall.
I find it interesting that your posts on this topic have somehow changed
their focus from dire fire & brimstone predictions about the liability
factor to human compassion. When this group as a majority defend our
intention to keep the lawyers out of letterboxing, we are blasted for not
being compassionate?
The sad thing about the culture is that we would not be allowed to be a part
of this simple, enjoyable hobby without legal backing.
Hope to see you on the trail!
TC
>
> I had a life before letterboxing and I'll have one after. It's a sad
> statement that is made about our American culture when people fight so
> tenacously for a "thing." However, I've said my piece and know when I'm up
> against a brick wall.
I find it interesting that your posts on this topic have somehow changed
their focus from dire fire & brimstone predictions about the liability
factor to human compassion. When this group as a majority defend our
intention to keep the lawyers out of letterboxing, we are blasted for not
being compassionate?
The sad thing about the culture is that we would not be allowed to be a part
of this simple, enjoyable hobby without legal backing.
Hope to see you on the trail!
TC
Re: [LbNA] Fare thee well
From: (jrovetto@baysidegroup.net) |
Date: 2001-06-01 17:08:52 UTC
The legal issues are about compassion for you too. Compassion for
people who are enjoying a hobby who may get the shaft from somebody
who can't use common sense and take care of themselves. If I'm
pointing out to you that there's a psychotic sniper with a gun in a
particular area looking for a victim, does that mean I support the
sniper?
I'm going to do some research now. I think there's a way that nobody
placing a letterbox will ever have to write a lengthy disclaimer
again. (without incorporating) I'll get back to you in a while.
Forester
Now relax and have some fun.
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., Thom Cheney wrote:
> on 5/31/01 6:49 PM, Forester at jrov@n... wrote:
>
> >
> > I had a life before letterboxing and I'll have one after. It's a
sad
> > statement that is made about our American culture when people
fight so
> > tenacously for a "thing." However, I've said my piece and know
when I'm up
> > against a brick wall.
>
> I find it interesting that your posts on this topic have somehow
changed
> their focus from dire fire & brimstone predictions about the
liability
> factor to human compassion. When this group as a majority defend
our
> intention to keep the lawyers out of letterboxing, we are blasted
for not
> being compassionate?
>
> The sad thing about the culture is that we would not be allowed to
be a part
> of this simple, enjoyable hobby without legal backing.
>
> Hope to see you on the trail!
>
> TC
people who are enjoying a hobby who may get the shaft from somebody
who can't use common sense and take care of themselves. If I'm
pointing out to you that there's a psychotic sniper with a gun in a
particular area looking for a victim, does that mean I support the
sniper?
I'm going to do some research now. I think there's a way that nobody
placing a letterbox will ever have to write a lengthy disclaimer
again. (without incorporating) I'll get back to you in a while.
Forester
Now relax and have some fun.
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., Thom Cheney
> on 5/31/01 6:49 PM, Forester at jrov@n... wrote:
>
> >
> > I had a life before letterboxing and I'll have one after. It's a
sad
> > statement that is made about our American culture when people
fight so
> > tenacously for a "thing." However, I've said my piece and know
when I'm up
> > against a brick wall.
>
> I find it interesting that your posts on this topic have somehow
changed
> their focus from dire fire & brimstone predictions about the
liability
> factor to human compassion. When this group as a majority defend
our
> intention to keep the lawyers out of letterboxing, we are blasted
for not
> being compassionate?
>
> The sad thing about the culture is that we would not be allowed to
be a part
> of this simple, enjoyable hobby without legal backing.
>
> Hope to see you on the trail!
>
> TC
Re: Fare thee well
From: Mark S. Fitton (mfitton@snet.net) |
Date: 2001-06-02 10:05:49 UTC-04:00
At 09:50 AM 6/1/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>From: "Forester"
>Subject: Fare thee well
>
>Forgive me for the bible reference, but I think it's time to kick the dust
>from my sandals and move on. My life became more fulfilling when I learned
>to act by my beliefs rather that my feelings. That often means speaking up
>when it would be easier to be quiet.
>
>I recently learned that the best way to lead a rewarding life is to use
>things and care for people. Letterboxing is a "thing!" If you use it as a
>mode of recreation and refreshment, that's alright. However, if it comes
>before the welfare of others, I can't justify it. My suggestions and
>warnings were made with the hope that people would see a potential problem
>and put their heads together to seek a reasonable solution. Instead they
>acted as if I were attacking a loved one. Quite frankly, that turns my
>stomach.
I'm sorry that you feel compelled to move on. You have brought a lot of
good to this list in the past, but when you "speak up" and introduce
something that, in my opinion, will never happen and then beat it to death
while suggesting that we are not aware or smart enough or courageous
enough, you should expect some responses. Randy is right, this is not the
forum for this discussion, so I will make this my last mailing on the subject.
>I had a life before letterboxing and I'll have one after. It's a sad
>statement that is made about our American culture when people fight so
>tenacously for a "thing." However, I've said my piece and know when I'm up
>against a brick wall.
Like fighting so tenaciously for that freedom thing? Those damn Americans,
how dare they stick up for something they believe in.
>May your paths be smooth and I sincerely hope that none of my predictions
>come true. However, for the time-being Stone Needle in NJ will be off the
>list and I'll just have to go back to enjoying the outdoors without a stamp
>pad.
>
>Forester
I hope you will continue to read and post to this list, but if not, perhaps
we'll meet on a trail somewhere. Good luck.
Mark
>From: "Forester"
>Subject: Fare thee well
>
>Forgive me for the bible reference, but I think it's time to kick the dust
>from my sandals and move on. My life became more fulfilling when I learned
>to act by my beliefs rather that my feelings. That often means speaking up
>when it would be easier to be quiet.
>
>I recently learned that the best way to lead a rewarding life is to use
>things and care for people. Letterboxing is a "thing!" If you use it as a
>mode of recreation and refreshment, that's alright. However, if it comes
>before the welfare of others, I can't justify it. My suggestions and
>warnings were made with the hope that people would see a potential problem
>and put their heads together to seek a reasonable solution. Instead they
>acted as if I were attacking a loved one. Quite frankly, that turns my
>stomach.
I'm sorry that you feel compelled to move on. You have brought a lot of
good to this list in the past, but when you "speak up" and introduce
something that, in my opinion, will never happen and then beat it to death
while suggesting that we are not aware or smart enough or courageous
enough, you should expect some responses. Randy is right, this is not the
forum for this discussion, so I will make this my last mailing on the subject.
>I had a life before letterboxing and I'll have one after. It's a sad
>statement that is made about our American culture when people fight so
>tenacously for a "thing." However, I've said my piece and know when I'm up
>against a brick wall.
Like fighting so tenaciously for that freedom thing? Those damn Americans,
how dare they stick up for something they believe in.
>May your paths be smooth and I sincerely hope that none of my predictions
>come true. However, for the time-being Stone Needle in NJ will be off the
>list and I'll just have to go back to enjoying the outdoors without a stamp
>pad.
>
>Forester
I hope you will continue to read and post to this list, but if not, perhaps
we'll meet on a trail somewhere. Good luck.
Mark